@ Justin – exactly (on the whole this is just one idea thing – I just posted the pics we had at the moment)

@ tidbeck – nice idea, I think we might run with that (discussing on kde-promo now…)

Just a thought, couldn’t you have the classic “apple on head” as the image representing Apple?

“Microsoft, baddddd
Apple, badddd!
KDE, good”

It seems like the messaging on the shirt works perfectly to me. If you disagree with this idea then this shirt is not for you. But I would be willing to bet the vast majority of our community does in fact feel this message is true and I don’t see anything wrong with saying it. Why did we bother creating all of this KDE stuff if we thought those other solutions were fine? Also, most anyone who has seen the related commercials will immediately be left wondering “what is this KDE thing?” which is a great way to get new users curious enough to ask and learn more about our software.

Last but not least, this is just ONE shirt idea. If there are folks out there who want to see something else please feel free to post your ideas on the wiki so that there is a shirt created that you like. Several other people have done this already and there are some nice designs being created around them already!

Thanks for the effort you put in – it adds to the awesomeness of KDE.

I was looking for “fairly simple, optionally quite abstract [pics] from any branch of science”. Ok, maybe that’s a bit vague – really things like test-tubes, laser beams, big bits of kit (parts of LHC), weird sea creatures – these are some of the things I’ve found trawling Flickr. I just figured that there are probably a fair number of scientists among KDE software users and scientists are more likely to have these kind of pics. And perhaps as its a KDE app it is nice to get some pictures from people who might actually be using it.

So no, I’m not after a picture of you (but thanks…) and I’m not excluding people who are not scientists or KDE software users. Probably I’ll end up doing another trawl through Flickr and Wikimedia Commons via the Creative Commons search.

Fair enough. Perhaps I’m just lucky in that among people I know no-one generally flames over software choices and I don’t frequent sites where that kind of thing happens. Most of my friends use Windows or Mac (I use Windows too sometimes) so I don’t believe in any “use KDE software or you’re stupid/evil” idea. Of course, a t-shirt doesn’t need to appeal to everyone – we should have a wide range – but perhaps this idea needs a rethink. Someone else suggested emphasising thepositive aspect of KDE more than the negatives of the others (by email and now a design on the wiki).

Anyway, thanks for your views, we’ve been (not intentionally) quite a small group working on this and definitely need some wider input I think.

Tomaz – why do you use KDE software? I’m not trying to challenge your viewpoint on the PC/Mac/KDE idea or even the “Be Free” slogan, just wondering what your reasons are and whether they might form the basis for a t-shirt design