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	<title>Comments on: Social networks, wikis, collaboration tools&#8230; Can KDE make them suck less?</title>
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	<description>A troll&#039;s eye view</description>
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		<title>By: Education Guidebook</title>
		<link>http://www.asinen.org/2010/03/social-networks-wikis-collaboration-tools-can-kde-make-them-suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1769</link>
		<dc:creator>Education Guidebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the cost for a subscription to the Journal of Web Analytics? I am an Associate Professor at the University of Boston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the cost for a subscription to the Journal of Web Analytics? I am an Associate Professor at the University of Boston.</p>
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		<title>By: fb like</title>
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		<dc:creator>fb like</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 01:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rockin read, cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rockin read, cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Kylie Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kylie Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 12:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>microblogging is really useful when you want to broadcast short updates. i am still leaning towards traditional blogging.&quot;&quot;*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>microblogging is really useful when you want to broadcast short updates. i am still leaning towards traditional blogging.&#8221;"*</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Stefan. Yep, Wave looks really interesting. I suppose we&#039;ll have to wait and see how these things play out but I am optimistic that things are going to get better :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Stefan. Yep, Wave looks really interesting. I suppose we&#8217;ll have to wait and see how these things play out but I am optimistic that things are going to get better <img src='http://www.asinen.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://www.asinen.org/2010/03/social-networks-wikis-collaboration-tools-can-kde-make-them-suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, maybe I&#039;m holding a hammer..., but it strikes me that Google Wave might be a useful direction to investigate. Google Wave aims at a space somewhere between collaborative editing and communication. One of the major ideas behind Google Wave is to have a protocol that anyone can implement and interact with, the specs are available at http://www.waveprotocol.org/. A prototype server is available at http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/ which can (theoretically at least, I haven&#039;t tried it personally) interact with the googlewave.com servers, and other servers (this is the whole idea). What I&#039;m building up to is that it may make sense to make a KDE client for the Wave protocol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, maybe I&#8217;m holding a hammer&#8230;, but it strikes me that Google Wave might be a useful direction to investigate. Google Wave aims at a space somewhere between collaborative editing and communication. One of the major ideas behind Google Wave is to have a protocol that anyone can implement and interact with, the specs are available at <a href="http://www.waveprotocol.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.waveprotocol.org/</a>. A prototype server is available at <a href="http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/</a> which can (theoretically at least, I haven&#8217;t tried it personally) interact with the googlewave.com servers, and other servers (this is the whole idea). What I&#8217;m building up to is that it may make sense to make a KDE client for the Wave protocol.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ mario - Yeah, I should have mentioned Silk too :-) For clarification, I don&#039;t have the skills to be much use with this, consider this post more in the category of a bit of a rant due to seeing how well things can work (Kopete) to remove the pain of multiple closed wall networks and the mess that is social networks at the moment (imho)

@ alej - Sure. I imagine the idea is to get commercial providers using ownCloud software too, or for ownCloud to provide it as a service - not everyone wants to run their own stuff. Open standards for communicating can solve a lot of the problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ mario &#8211; Yeah, I should have mentioned Silk too <img src='http://www.asinen.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  For clarification, I don&#8217;t have the skills to be much use with this, consider this post more in the category of a bit of a rant due to seeing how well things can work (Kopete) to remove the pain of multiple closed wall networks and the mess that is social networks at the moment (imho)</p>
<p>@ alej &#8211; Sure. I imagine the idea is to get commercial providers using ownCloud software too, or for ownCloud to provide it as a service &#8211; not everyone wants to run their own stuff. Open standards for communicating can solve a lot of the problems.</p>
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		<title>By: alej</title>
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		<dc:creator>alej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If i want to accomodate to the current situation, I think that letting corporations do services is fine because I don&#039;t have to think about availability then. I don&#039;t have to administer anything. On the other hand, they must follow the route of commercialization and mine my data, sell it, advertise, act as a gatekeeper to me etc.

To have all this in a decentralized, jabber like way is a good way - at least the software and platform is free then. Still I think it would be very very nice if all this was built upon some very very basic peer 2 peer technology. Like a distributed hash table or so. That would be ideal and possibly give me absolute control over everything as far as I want that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If i want to accomodate to the current situation, I think that letting corporations do services is fine because I don&#8217;t have to think about availability then. I don&#8217;t have to administer anything. On the other hand, they must follow the route of commercialization and mine my data, sell it, advertise, act as a gatekeeper to me etc.</p>
<p>To have all this in a decentralized, jabber like way is a good way &#8211; at least the software and platform is free then. Still I think it would be very very nice if all this was built upon some very very basic peer 2 peer technology. Like a distributed hash table or so. That would be ideal and possibly give me absolute control over everything as far as I want that.</p>
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		<title>By: mario</title>
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		<dc:creator>mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are absolutely right, did you talk to the kde silk people? http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Silk a collaboration could be productive. bye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are absolutely right, did you talk to the kde silk people? <a href="http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Silk" rel="nofollow">http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Silk</a> a collaboration could be productive. bye</p>
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